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7/5/2003

super.KFinn(19:10):
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and emma, obviously. it's not like you're born with your mind set one way, everything about your personality is based on things that happen to you and your reactions to them.
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super.KFinn(19:03):
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who's will t?
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7/4/2003

Zofia(21:43):
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I have this theory; everybody in the world is bisexual in one way or another. HOWEVER, they can only realise this if their attraction to both the male and female gender is equal, if one outweighs the other, the individual will be convinced that they are either homosexual or heterosexual. Yes, I do want input. And again, yes, I was trying to be deep and shit when I wrote this.

Happy fucking fourth of july.
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nujums(00:26):
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*poke*
*runs in circles*

...oh, yeah, I'm bored.
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7/3/2003

Zofia(14:13):
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Hey everybody...How's it going, yay for more people joining *waves at nujums*.....Zack, why didn't you link to my blog? *tear*
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pyroboy(12:41):
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NOTE: In order for the email thing to work, you must send in plain text format (not HTML!). Also, (as zack said) don't send from an account that uses ads.
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pyroboy(12:37):
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Weren't we going to talk about something interesting and or puzzling...?
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7/2/2003

zacky(18:02):
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Ew, the mail thing does NOT work. I guess if your emails don't out ADS at the bottom of your letters, use it, but otherwise BLECHH!!!!
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zacky(18:00):
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So, they have this thing where you can post over e-mail, and this is me testing it out. Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3. Yah.


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Nora(16:22):
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i have color... my life is now complete! Thank you zack... my hero...
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nujums(16:09):
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Heyheyhey!
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pyroboy(15:08):
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MOO! it be will... i no blog before... i blog now... so there!
HELLO ALL
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zacky(13:24):
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OH yeah, we TOTALLY have 2 more people. RIGHTEOUS!
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Zofia(13:14):
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forgot to mention

my blogger name is
TheEnchantedTraveler

But I don't plan on keeping a blogger

so....
if you're used to reading my blurty
just keep on reading for updates in this crazy thing I call
life
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Zofia(13:07):
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Hear me
MEW

In other relations

my name is Emma Zachurski
However I preferred to be called Zofia

Thanks for your time
cheerio
<333

(BTW my SN comes from the book Lolita by Vladamir Nabokov...good stuff)
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zacky(13:01):
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I am your html GOD!!!!! Praise me! :)
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zacky(12:36):
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OK, so, it's not working, so I'm gonna trash it and start from scratch.
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super.KFinn(12:24):
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superKevin to the rescue! with my restoration of the old template! wooo
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zacky(12:15):
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Ok, this template is very temporary, FEAR NOT!!!! For Kevin and I are on the job.
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zacky(12:11):
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READ THIS BEFORE YOU POST: THE TEMPLATE IS GONE. IF YOU TRY TO FIX IT, AND YOU DON'T GET IT RIGHT ON YOUR FIRST TRY, THE ENTIRE SITE WILL BE FUCKED UP. THE SITE WILL BE OK, WE JUST CAN'T POST UNTIL I/KEVIN FIX(ES) THE TEMPLATE. BE PATIENT.
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Nora(11:25):
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Good Morning Cherubs! I have just check my email for the first time in about three months and got the invitation, sooooooo..... HELLO! Do i need a color or sumthing.... ZACK HELP ME! I will try to actually write stuff but getting the internet in my house is such a pain in the ASS! ARGGGGG.... Anyway... howdy?
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7/1/2003

Alex(21:47):
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i vote against (strongly against) uberblog---hy can;t we leave it like ti was......it was good----im leaving for camp tommorow all, and I will miss you, and these conversations------if you feel like it, write me thoguht-provolking questions and we can write back and forth while im at camp----the adress

3052 Vaughn Summit Road
Luray Virginia 22835

c ya after camp--or for morgan--tommorow--or for jeff--ion 10 days!!!
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zacky(21:01):
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I think this site might start to lag a bit, seeing as, come Sunday, half our member will be gone...oh, duh, we just have to get more people!!! Everyone invite everyone you can think of!!!
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Morgie(17:27):
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I LOVE YOU ALL FAREWELL!!!!!!!!!!!
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Morgie(17:25):
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Ok weeeell i got uber bunches of shit to pack, so i'll make this quick...i will try and send you guys letters from up there but no garuntee's cuz on weekends i'ma gunna be learnin how to play lacrosse wid my buds...lol I LOVE YOU ALL ::spread the happiness::, ok muchas kissaz, bb!!

haha i propose a name for you to think about: Uberblog.
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zacky(12:16):
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You can't force learning, you can only provide a chioce, like you said, Alex.
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Morgie(07:10):
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I definently agree with alex and zack, it is completely wrong for them to try to ruin their son's life simply because he chose to - not even to throw away the religion - just to not believe in some of the religion's concepts.
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Alex(00:20):
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I partially agree with you zack. I feel that the mezanis forcing religion and thought onto tehir daughter is inexcusable, however, I also feel that it is good and necessary that they provide it to her. They should not force it on her, but they should force her to learn about it, after which she should make a choice
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6/30/2003

zacky(22:04):
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But it's ok that Anya is submitting to her parents' will and following their rules even if she think's they are wrong? (please excuse any ignorance, i daresay i'm not the most qualified to speak on this subject)
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jeff(21:47):
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anya... she thinks is sucks but she believes in her religon and all the values that her parents tought her even if she doesnt like them shes still going to live by them. what her parents did to her brother is not alright, they kicked hi8m out of the house because he didnt fallow them.
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Morgie(18:35):
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I definently agree with zack, though I can't say much on the topic right now (busy busy gettin ready for camp) I think that zack's comment truly layed it out exactly the way i wanted to.
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zacky(14:19):
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Although, you do depend on your parents for truths, I don't think religion should be one of them. I think everyone should choose what to believe for themselves. When (if) I have a kid and they come home from school saying things like "Jesus is the king of the sky," I'm not going to say, no, whoever told you that is wrong, I'll say, I don't believe that, but if you want to believe that it's your choice, and if you want, I'll help you learn more about the king of the sky. I don't think religion should be passed down through families, just because it doesn't work that way. What about Anya, her paernts are passing their religion on, and the effect of that is she can't date. Is that ok?
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Alex(13:06):
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i know jeff---I was just making fun of you :-) anyway----Zack, i agree with you-----I think that no one should be prostelatized (sp) but I do think that religion inside a family as passed from parents to child is an extremely important thing, religion is a framework within which to show, demonstrate, and teach important lessons about right and wrong and life. Also, religion provides a great sense of continuity and family. I don't really believe in Judaism, but I still love being a jew because of teh community it creates, I love getting together with my family and seeing them during teh high-holy days and such, and I feel that is an even more important facet of religion then the spiritual part. All of us on this site, with the exception of morgan have been/are in some sort of religious(ethical) learning community, and we all know the friends that you make, simply because you have this common cultural ground to start on. THat is something religion provides, that many people cannot find elsewhere

and to talk about jeff's commment, polytheism and paganism are much more diffucult o dscuss simply because many of us know so ittle about them, I took a comparative religion class in sunday school this semester, and they are very confusing, and really in many ways, many times defeat teh whole purpose of modern religion, because they have no solid set of ideals and beliefs.
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jeff(12:32):
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i think we shouldent base so much of our topics on western religon and that mabye if we look at other polytheistic religons we might be able to talk more or pagenism. and to alex..im not just writeing to be an ass thats not what i said i said that i dont believe in everyuthing that im saying but i do think a lot of it is good
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zacky(12:13):
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Just because everyone has said something definitely does not mean that everythign has been said. The conversation will move itself, when the time comes.
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Morgie(11:05):
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btw: i do have a problem with zack's sister joining. I think this should be in our age group. and currently my view on the soon to be eighth graders is that they are all ho's and younger and may not understand some of the things that we talk about- and have more immature views. You may dissagree but I have two sisters and understand why zack wouldn't want his sister on this site so i vote no, she shouldn't be allowed to join.
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Morgie(10:57):
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The reason I mainly wanted to change it is because we've been on religion far too long, everyone's said something, so can we move on to something just as thought provocing other than religion...
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zacky(00:27):
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I agree with Alex, you can't just change the subject, the point of this site is to just see where our thoughts take us. Anyway, religion isn't all bad, I guess, you just have to dig through the crap and get to what it really means. The problem is all the power it gives people. There shouldn't be a pope, people should just read the Bible, and talk to their friends about it. Buddhism has the right idea, there's a proverb that says "If you meet the buddha on the road, kill him." It means that you don't need someone telling you what to believe. Because that's really what Religion is, it's worshiping something that tells you what to believe, and you shouldn't need that, you should be able to use your own brain and figure out what is true for yourself, because that's the only way you can be truly sure.
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6/29/2003

Alex(23:41):
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i ahve no problem with your sisten joining, but if you do, tehn i do---morgan, we cannot change the topic for exactly that reason, we want to discuss these topics that are hard to discuss, that need different sides, that require thought, we want to answer questions that are pertinent to teh world in a meningful and thoughtful way, but we might just be yelling at each other if we were writing spur of the moment out loud. these are issues I am sure we have all thought about internally, but to see the other side we must break free of our assumptions, but a mind finds it extremely hard to break free and we must ahev other people talk about our opinions and theirs to really understnad an issue (and yes I have been reading Ender's Shadow this week)
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zacky(22:48):
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My sister is kicking me off, so I can't 1)Yell at alex for not caring and 2)Rebutt (?) Jeff's statement, I can only ask this question - Does anyone mind if my sister joins this blog? I do.
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Morgie(22:48):
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ps: i think alex's color should be pastels!!!
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Morgie(22:47):
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Though sometimes I feel that there is truly religion, I make it for myself. I pray every once in a while and things sure for really important events and such, but when I do it, I usually do it to organize my thoughts and figure out a way to make something possible. Or if there is no other way I suppose that yes I do believe in a higher power, but I also believe that we should look at ourselves like we look at other mammals, we want to reproduce, and be better off than others. This causes fights, social groups, criticism, sadness, the rich and the poor. This is why sometimes to escape I curl into a ball and hope that there is a god that does this all for a reason, because if this is all for nothing...what happens after we die...we can't just dissapear- can we, like we appeared when we are born. Haha personally I was one of those kids who wanted to die just because I wanted to see what came next, Curiousity killed the morgan...yeah. God is confusing. it is taken in the wrong way, to me when i'm in these all god believing moods, god looks down upon me and you cannot see him- he is no man, he is more than that, men and women can become angels but god is a presence, it helps and hurts. He makes the bad so that we can see the good. He hurts us so we can heal eachother. In a book I am reading by Ethan Hawke (who btw is an amazing writer) he talks about how this character struggles, and finally decides that he believes in god. it's pretty insightful the way he struggles to find himself and how he goes through all this triumph and then talks about how it was god's work...he also talks about how he needs stability, building blocks- to me I think it's scary to get too believing in one culture, but even in story books they tell good from bad the knight in shining armor, cinderella gets the shoe because she was good to others, they live happilly ever after except for her evil stepsisters and stepmother, but these all must have been based on god, based on the building blocks of good and bad. That is why I am in turmoil- i fear giving myself to religion because I want to be free to decide within myself what is right and wrong, have learned enough in life to know that killing someone is horrendous, imagine being killed i mean it's not a pretty sight...i'd rather people as someone said earlier were spiritual, in balance with good and bad but to get there you need building blocks, and though things such as the bible provide them, i think it's better to pick and choose because some of church is shit, and it shouldn't be involved with any children in schools or in any court or anything to do with the goverment of our nation. to me it is impecable that church and state must stay different, which is why i think that i believe in the letter alex posted a while back.

can we please get off of religion it's stressful...lets talk about something relevant but light for a while to get over this huge hump:
If you could spit on anyone's shoes, who would it be and why?
If you could go anywhere with anyone, who would you take and where would you go?
If you had all the money in the world for a day but had the knowledge that any cash you had the next day would be gone no matter where it was, what would you buy/do?

just a few spur of the moment things i decided to put on maybe to transfer this topic...though we can stay on it if others wish...it's just tense- gives of fight odors and some of us really practice different religions that ...ITS JUST A BAD TOPIC...lol ok
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Alex(22:07):
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ok......I don't care about my font or background-----it can be whatever and black and my font color--- white---- FFFFFF -----ok----back to the important thing-------the religion--------I take the side of religion, not to be an ass like jeff, but because I believe in it, no, I personally do not believe in god----but i think religion as a concept is a good idea-----religion gives the common person something to believe in, it gives them reason to live their lives, most people do not ahve the impetus in their lives to say-----ok, i will live as a good person because I feel like it as many of us are----they need a fear--or at least an incentive---in judaism----there is no fear of god----there is merely this thought of tikun olam--reparing the world-----simply because it is a good thing-----but it is guided by judiasm and religion saying that this is a good thing-----well, this may e my last post for a while if I dont before I leve for sheridan on wednesday---SEE YOU ALL WHEN I GET BACK, and I will ahev many things to discuss when i return
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Bruno(20:40):
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You fucks,took away my privileges thingys, oh well, I want my font color to be #00FFCC and my font to be Lucida Blackletter and if not that font then Tempus Sans ITC,ok. Ok. Jeff, Free will, like time is a creation to give our lives, and life around us, perspective. This lets us say, That animal is not important, and can therefore, be killed. This also allows us to say, He chose to do it and therefore must be killed. Well, that's what I think anyway.
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jeff(19:33):
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no rebuttle to my arguments?
we should also talk about free will do humans really have it or do our genetics make us think we have it only to let us survive?
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Morgie(17:54):
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things confuse me but i totally did the archive page, zack better f*cking vouch for me man he sat there and watched me do it, then i saved it from him after he deleted it all! lol so check out the archives, but i can't figure out how to center it...
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Morgie(17:08):
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BRUNO I CAN'T READ YOUR COLOR.........pleeeez choose another blue......
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Morgie(16:35):
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sorry i thot you meant that we should put lots of cool links so everybody would use our site almost as a navigator- and i do use my other site, i just thought since there were so many cool links i'd just copy the whole bunch (deleting personals of course)...i'll fix it...and can we please put the banner somewhere, everyone could have like a line to put a quote about the site about it and you could put it right under the title...think about it
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zacky(16:28):
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And I deleted the banner thing cuz there was no good place to put it. (sorry if I'm being a jerk about all this, but I'm really OCD when it comes to website making)
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zacky(16:27):
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GAHHHH!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOO!!!! Morgan, PLEASE pick ONE site. UN!!! UNO!!! EIN!!! 01!!! That huge list just looks terrible. I won't delete any, I leave it up to YOU to pick one. And, I can't really read your writing, Bruno, plus sanskript isn't a font...THANK YOU JEFF!!!!
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Morgie(15:39):
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i've fixed everything about my links and colors all that i ask that is left to be fixed is:
THE COLOR OF THE LINKS
and
THE GODDAMN ARCHIVES

ps:i'm baaaaaaack from the beach, so gimme a call! (301)565 3958
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Morgie(15:23):
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could you just not get the cool scrolly thing to work...you killed it from my existance...
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Morgie(15:22):
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how do you get to a saved post? i'm so irritable i want to die...i feel like itching myself to death and throwing my bloody eyeballs against a wall
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Morgie(15:16):
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btw: thanks zack the colors were put into perspective with me, could we pleeeaaaaaaaaaaasssssssse get the archives fixed and have the dates listed here, i'll fool around with it but only save it if it works.

btw again: can we lighten the gray of the links it's hard to read...
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Morgie(15:14):
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COLOR:FF3399
BACKGROUND: FFFF33
FONT: Trebuchet MS
and...i'm gunna have to make a big list of all the sites i want a link too, haha just look at my blogger- and you'll see why...i'll put it into another post...and half got deleted during my template trying times...


BTW: will you fucking fix the archives?
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Bruno(13:55):
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wait...never mind.
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Bruno(13:55):
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#666666=background,you have my font color, and my websight, and the font should be...sandskript.
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jeff(13:36):
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zack....


background=#000033
font=#FF6600
courier
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=jecholliday
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jeff(13:30):
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people are not being sold religon. the so called sellers are trying to get you to convert for your own good because they think that you will burn in hell if you dont and that your life could be better if you listen to the prechings of church. the people trying to convert you are not getting paid to convery you they are doing it because they feel that is right. science may give you a feeling of orginization but it doesnt give you a feel of comunity. it religon it doesnt matter who you are or what your past is, you will still be taken in. if you go into a labritory and you droped out of highschool you will not be able to feel welcome in a room full of degreed scientists. Religon is not being presented to to solve the mysteries of the universe but it can be worked into science to show some truth.

(BTw. im just taking the side of religon because i didnt think anyone else would. im not a true believer im a... suspecter)
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zacky(09:42):
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Ok, in EVERYONE'S next post, tell me
  • what you want your font color to be
  • what you want your background color to be
  • what you want your font to be
  • what website besides your own page you want as a link
Some people have already done some of this stuff, like, Kevin has everything but the website, and Alex has the website but nothing else, so obviously they don't have to worry about those things. Oh, and to find codes for colors, click here. TELL ME, DAMMIT!!!!
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zacky(01:55):
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But isn't it better to be good because good is GOOD, instead of being afraid all the time? Sure, religion has organized people, but for totally wrong reasons. There is a difference between spirituality and religion. Religion is what you are being sold, but spirituality is what it's made of. Strip away the flesh and bones of religion, and what you get is spirituality, which is basically living life with the thought that everyone is sacred, and that that shoul be a good enough reason for these-
  1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me. (fuck this one, god is just jealous)
  2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. (fuck this one too)
  3. Remember thou keep the Sabbath Day. (fuck it)
  4. Honor thy Father and thy Mother.
  5. Thou shalt not kill.
  6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
  7. Thou shalt not steal.
  8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. (don't lie, in normal english)
  9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife. (this may bear argument)
  10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods. (see above)
Ok, so maybe not. Either way, you should live life asa good person in order to assure that your life is good, not because you want to go to heaven, because there is no proof for heaven, and either way, you have a nice life and die, or you have a nice life and go to heaven (or, for me, purgatory - virtuous non-believers, although this post may have me wherever they toss heretics...).
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super.KFinn(00:52):
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the organization provided by religion is ok, but the religion itself is just stories. there is no proof and no reason to believe in it. I feel MORE organization from science and theories with actual proof than I do from any form of religion. I guess they're just two different ways of looking at things, I look for facts and evidence more than tradition.
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