1/15/2004

shagee(18:35):
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when i say "ideas" i really mean "random groups of words"
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shagee(18:35):
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it all really does depend on what happens after you die. you can never really know, can you? it is true that death is the only way to avoid pain. but what if life after death is hell? like what if its just you die and then are tortured for the rest of eternity? no heaven, no god, no reincarnation, just torture. i know htis sounds like it just came out of my ass, and thats true. but yeah wouldn't that be interesting? maybe if everyone killed themselves at once life would stay the same. what the fuck am i talking about? just spitting out ideas. ok thats it.
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1/12/2004

Xaq(08:02):
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I posted this on my personal blog (shameless self-promotion) and it got a lot of comments, so I thought it might be good to but it up here:
If you really think about it, the best way to assure that you have a good life is not to have one at all, that is, to die. If you use pure logic, the only asnwer is suicide: life is painful with little respite, you will not get what you want most of the time, and you die in the end anyway. Fortunately (is it?) most people don't use logic. Humans are genetically programmed to fight for their lives to the very last. Maybe people who are suicidal are just uber-logical. But that's usually not the case. Usually it's "AHHHHH LIFE SUCKS GET ME OUT", not, "I've thought this through, and I think the best choice is to kill myself." Or is it? I really don't know, I'm not suicidal, and I have never really had dealings with anyone who is. Not enough to know their motives. Another thing is, no one knows what happens when you die. I mean, what happens to your...soul? The part of you that knows and feels things. I'm a very scientific thinker, so I believe that there must be a physical representation, a soul organ. Somewhere, there is a part of us that IS that. I have a hard time believing there isn't. But maybe there isn't. That leaves a whole slew of possibilities for what happens after death. I think my favorite version of that is reincarnation. Because unlike the Christian view of heaven and hell, it doesn't call for some reigning deity. Well, whatever, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, which I hope will be a long time from now.
CLARIFICATION: I hope its obvious that I personally do not intend to end my own life ever. What I mean by "the best way to assure that you have a good life is not to have one at all" is that if you want to avoid pain completely, death is your only option. However, although I don't know this for a fact, I doubt there would be much pleasure in death either. Discuss.

PS: Nessa wants everybody to know that it was her that started this train of thought.
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