6/28/2003

jeff(14:38):

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you think religon is a bad idea? it orginizes people and gives hem a sence of meaning gives peoples life purpose and lets them know that just because their life scuked on earth that they should do good things so they can live on in the after life. the orginized religon makes wars and hatered but it also puts people in line. it gives people a law and somthing to fear. because knowing if they do somthing bad in this life will get them screwed in the next. is this a good idea? should people be made to live in fear of doing somthing bad so they will always do goodthings. that means that their only good because they fear god and you will never really be able to tell if they actually think anything that they say. but what about thoes religons that dont believe in the after life. what is wrong with them. they dont impose things on their fallowers without giving reason why. they might have some kooky customs but hey who doesnt have kooky customs i mean killing anmials and eating their dead bodies that have been frozen for months is a kooky custom but most people do it anyways.

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6/27/2003

zacky(21:35):

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I've decided to just PICK colors for Jeff and Alex, so it's, more interesting. If you don't like the colors, JUST SAY SO.

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zacky(21:26):

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Zack is back!

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6/26/2003

zacky(17:52):

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Hello, it's Zack, I found a net cafe, so that is how this is possible. I'm glad that I didn't have the chance to see all the pastel-ness! Don't worry, I'll fix it to how it was before I left. Morgan, the color is only in our words, it symbolizes [mocking voice] that we are magical, and that we can produce color in an ever-dulling world. But seriously, I agree with a lot of the stuff you say, Morgan. I think everyone is forgiving everyone now... Either way, I think the site looks better in grayscale, with just our posts as color. Jeff and Alex still need to post up their preferred colors, and if anyone wants personal background colors or anything, just tell Kevin and I, we can take care of it for you. Well, you all know my stand on religion, I think that it's generally a bad idea, but it's really your choice, it's also only YOUR choice, and you can't choose for anyone else. Errr... Actually, it's not even that big a deal, it's like deciding what kind of peanut butter to buy. This club is just advertising. There is just as much need for seperation of church and state and there is for separation of business and state. Evangelism is just as good as pop-up ads. That is a good question, though, if they can silence this club, what's stopping htem from silecning any club they don't like. I'm sorry if this is all disjointed and all, but so it that letter, and I don't quite get the gist of it. Either way, my time is about to run out, so I'll end here. Try not to be TOO confused.

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6/25/2003

Bruno(19:40):

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I'm sorry, I meant to put that part as a coment on your xanga, but never you mind, i was tired and bitchy and very mutch half asleep.

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Alex(09:24):

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what book bruno??? in my last post I mentioned teh constitution, and posted the text of an email I thought would be interesting to discuss----what book are you talking about??

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super.KFinn(00:19):

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I changed it, now it's not pastel anymore. I can't make it back to how it was because I don't remember how it was before.

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6/24/2003

Bruno(23:17):

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I agree with everything, but alex, SHUT TEFUCK UP ABOUT A BOOK NOT HALF THEPOEPLE HERE HAVE READ! I'm one of them and i dont apreshiate that. Morgan, I get were you're coming from, I'll try to do those things. I'm lost i=on the time issue. OH well.

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Alex(21:22):

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AHHHHHHHHHHH--take it away---take away the pastel!!! KEVIN ZACK----HELP!!!

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Morgie(21:03):

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I tink this site be beauuuuuuuuuuutified, sry zack please leave it it's sooo pretty (love yah! -Nora and Morgan)

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Morgie(20:55):

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I'd like to say that the big posting on all that stuff was not just gossip AND to say that i posted it on there because that time at that party gave me self change, and i wanted to show that in a 4 day time lapse...all of you whom did not get that are stupid. Anways bruno i am not going to get mad at you simply because you are one of the most insecure people i know...just say it...don't be stupid you know you think i'm a hypocritical bitch with a big nose and jeff "funny toes" so well dont say it but you dont need to be so insecure you silly boy just become ok with yourself and everyone else will too- and the people who don't can just go and do yoga so that they can suck their own cocks cuz nobody else is gunna do it to them...unless they're as hot as noah pierce...woah! lol ok... Zack have fun at the beach I know nora and I are. Alex, i think i love you more than anyone else in the world. Thanks for not getting mad and hopefully accepting that you should ask before stating...though you're probably somewhere else and just didn't read it...oh well Nora and I are having a blast at the beach! AND she's tan!!! Ok well though the only sexy guys at the beach always have these ugly slutty rich gf's we're having fun reading up on your lives, love you guys party on BTW: i did write that comment of anger at 6 oclock in the morning when i had been rudely awakened and was preparing to go in a car for 6-7 hours...that may have influenced it...but it truly was angering... COLOR! please give us some more color...haha i'll see what i can do...............::twilight zone music::

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jeff(17:31):

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i thought the bubbles were underwater uneffected by air and winds? ]

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Alex(13:20):

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bruno.......just so you know....the universe has been proven finite---it is expanding----and therefore it is finite (yes there are other explanations to it---but we all know that its expanding so taking that as a given......)---anyway--i wanted to post a new topic----y mom just ent me this email---read it and then post your responses as it applies to teh 1st ammendment and seperation of church and statte (7th ammendment?)--- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce D. Wootten" Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Board of Education Attorneys Respond to Appeals Court Challenge by Evangelical Group to Distribute Flyers in Backpacks Attorneys for the Montgomery County Board of Education have filed a defense in a case that now involves the United States Department of Justice's support of an evangelical religious group's efforts to force the Montgomery County Public Schools to distribute its recruitment flyers through the backpacks of elementary school students. The attorneys filed the defense in the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond on Friday, June 20, in response to the religious group's appeal of a ruling by the United States District Court for the District of Maryland. The appeal challenged the district court's decision not to grant a preliminary injunction that would have compelled the school system to distribute the flyers. In the school system's defense, attorneys argued that the evangelical group is attempting to force teachers and students to accept and distribute "proselytizing materials" during the school day in violation of the constitutional requirements for a separation of church and state. Child Evangelism Fellowship of Maryland, which sponsors the Good News Clubs as an afterschool activity, originally had sued in federal district court over the school system's refusal to distribute the club's recruitment flyers that invite children to meet "weekly to hear Bible stories, play games, sing songs, and memorize Scripture," among other religious activities. The case is still pending in the district court. In the meantime, the request for a preliminary injunction has attracted the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, which filed an amicus brief in support of the religious group's efforts to overturn the lower court's preliminary ruling. The case, Child Evangelism Fellowship of Maryland, et al., v. Montgomery County School District, et al., is one of several filed across the country by the evangelical group and others. In 2001, the United States Supreme Court held that the Constitution did not prohibit Good News Clubs from meeting in elementary schools after school. The group's activities after school already were permitted in Montgomery County and, in fact, the group has sponsored afterschool clubs at two elementary schools this past school year. The group also is permitted to display flyers and other materials, as are other outside organizations, at community functions after school, such as back-to-school nights and other community and parent meetings. Moreover, the group can place materials on community information tables at schools. The school system is currently reviewing other options for deciding what is to be distributed home to parents through their children's backpacks. The distribution is now limited to materials directly related to education and notices about health, nonprofit organizations, community sports and recreation activities, day care, and school system partnerships. oh yeah---just a great quote I heard on the daily show last night that I'm sure we can all agree with........ some senator said " 'In my opinion, some people like to hide behind the 1st ammendment.'" So jon stuart says "perhaps...but maybe that's beacue they're being shot at by people who are hiding behind the second." ;-)

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zacky(08:58):

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NOW this site is starting to look GOOD. OK, I'm off. Seeya on Saturday.

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zacky(08:47):

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Someone help me with the list of people thing, the stylesheet is being a bitch.

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6/23/2003

zacky(22:40):

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In adittion, there is the whole parallel universe thing. Someting may be impossible here, but somewhere-when else there may be a univers that branched off so early that all it's rules are different. Of course, that may or may not alter the nature of time in that universe. Also, what if time isn't actually a dimension? Maybe the forth dimension is just another pair of opposing directions to move in, and time is just something that everything is subject to. But then that brings up the question, what if everything ISN'T subject to time? What if time IS something that can be manipulated? And what about bubbles? With bubbles, what is the difference between underwater and the open air? Maybe it's the tendency in water to float upward, but in the air the particles just float about. And what about wind? How far does this metaphor go? What does it mean when the bubble breaches the surface and pops? The apocalypse? What does each part mean? SPIRAL OUT!!!!

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Bruno(21:57):

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The universe is infinite, as is time, distance, numbers, everything. If these things weren't infinite we wouldn't measure them the way we do, because in mathematics, there is an infinity, and so from the human standpoint, veerything can be measured to infinite length. Time, distance, speed, anything. Plus, things, as far as we know, may be broken down into infinitely small particles, and if this is true, how do we know that universes aren't just particles in relation to another universe. And finely, how can something just end. I mean, how can time be seen as merely a relation to are universe. If our universe were to somehow brake down after we had discovered the ability to move to another universe. Then, theoretically, time would be infinite even out of human perspective, because even if we weren't there, that space would still exist.

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super.KFinn(21:14):

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two bubbles can merge, two universes can join, it's all possible, just unlikely. it's more likely for two universes to just glide next to eachother and be warped slightly. and, we're just bubbles within bubbles, because the fourth-dimension universe we exist in is probably in a bubble in the fifth dimension, and it too will eventually pop.

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jeff(21:06):

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i think were all being anal about the post morgan made. though i think if we were ever to dusciuss it it shouldent be on a forum on the net. any who... i like the idea about the universies being little bubbles in the water it just doesnt make sence how they can all go through time without interfering. though it could not be as random so the bubbes could not interfere at all ot they could not even be bubbles ...nothing keeping them seperated feom the outside because the outside is nothing so when they touch they just merge into one bubble but that leads me back to how did they all start. because there are many of them it rules out the big bang theroy because it yould have to happen more than once... which now thinking upon it isnt that hard to imagine and new bangs could be happning all the time. what if everytime a old universe poped a new one was made. wait. the bubbles would have to pop and therefore could not merge. or mabye both could happen. hummmmm.

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super.KFinn(21:04):

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ok, in theory time is infinite, but there is a limited amount of time in the universe. there ARE boundaries in the universe of distance, even if they are constantly growing, at any given point they could be measured, though it would take longer than the duration of the universe to measure this by any methods we currently have. there is a life span of the universe, even if it's constantly changing, and it's not finite.

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zacky(21:01):

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OK, everyone besides Kevin and I, post up the font, color, and background you want, cuz we can do that for you. Make sure you don't pick stuff other people already have. You can find colors here.

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zacky(20:53):

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I'm going to Bethany Beach for 4 days, so there won't be any more posting by me on here after today until Saturday. Be sure not to have ANY FUN until i get back...or whatever. But you are still talking about time from the human perspective, Kevin. Yes, a duration of time is finite, but saying time itself is finite is like saying that didtance is finite. Yes, A distance is finite, but that finite number could be ANYTHING. Alex, you may or may not be right. Maybe it's a quantum mechanics thing, like electrons acting differently when they are observed. Seeya later!!!

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super.KFinn(19:20):

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you know there's a spellchecker, right?

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Alex(15:07):

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I could spell better---but that's too much effort---I can spell, its just that my thoughts come and my fingers aren't quite that fast yet------about the whole commenty thing-----I was not trying to offend anyone, I thought I put that comment rather respectfully, I am not pissed and was just stating something that we would have said eventually, and I refuse to further comment--------ok.....Zack, point 3, about time, I agree with you----but my caveat is that I feel that when, on the infinite line of time, the laws of reality (ie physics) change--it is highly possible, if not likely that the laws of time will change with them

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super.KFinn(12:02):

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there. everything works.

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super.KFinn(11:52):

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only my special font is working becuase only I am cool enough. actually, I don't know, I'll look at it. and, zack, you're wrong. time is not infinite. it's like any other dimension. like, this chair is 1.5 feet wide, and this time is 3 years long. eventually we'll just hit the end of our time and it'll end.

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zacky(10:29):

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Kevin, why is only your special font working? Help me out here!

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Bruno(08:01):

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Sorry bout the spelling and so I talk and don't think about what I said till an hour and a half later. I'll try to change. Sorry for what I said Morgan. Plus, I'll try to stop butting in to things that are none of my business. I would also like to point out for Alex and myself that there is a spell check. WOW!

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6/22/2003

zacky(23:21):

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But mostly Bruno.

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zacky(23:13):

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Instead of just exploding at eachother, why don't we THINK before we type. I mean, there is so much time between when a thought forms in your head and when it's on this page that there should be some point at which you think "what will this mean to them?" If it's not gonna get your point across without hurting another person, which is unnecessary, REVISE, FOOLS! Morgan, what you are talking about is gossip, you were the only one at that party. I didn't make this site in order to discuss what happens when Samantha and her stoner friends have an exciting party. Jeez, you get mad when YOUR party crosses a line, then obsess over one that was far worse. Just because it wasn't YOUR party, it was ok? Not cool, dude. Time is infinite. The end of time is a purely human concept. Things happen that we have no control over; they were happening before we were around to notice, and they will continue to happen after we are gone. On an infinite timeline, of course everything happens, because everything is finitely probable, including a change in the laws of reality. PS: NOt a big deal, but can we work on are spelling? "Scenes"?!?!?!?!? It's s-e-n-s-e. I'm really only talking to Bruno and Alex.

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Bruno(18:38):

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Looking back, my posts made no scenes what so ever and I feel like a stupid vindictive ass.

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super.KFinn(15:10):

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haha, my posts are the COOLEST

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Alex(14:54):

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from teh human perspective---time is infinite-----we cannot see teh ends of time from our perspective (and I do not mean while we are living) I mean that from where we exist, time will never cease. but, unlike zack was trying to convince me of at Carter's party---that does not mean that EVERYTHING will happen----becacuse time is a facet of reality, much like gravity---so only things in reality can happen----were reality to go--time would leave as a part of reality, however, because of infinite proabability, everything that can happen in reality will happen---more or less----no it will not be at the same time, but generally the same, and as part of that infinite probability, reality will at some point cease to exist

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super.KFinn(14:44):

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SO, time. the best (most current) theory of time is that every universe is like a bubble. it goes up thorugh an ocean of time constantly, accelerating and expanding as it goes, until it pops and we're all mushed together with all the other universe, which are all together in a bubble in the next dimension, rising, accelerating, and growing... and I think we should all be friends and get along

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Bruno(10:10):

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OK, Morgan now your being an indecisive hypocritical bitch.

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Bruno(09:59):

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OK, time is infinite because we have no proof otherwise. Morgan, stop being a hypocritical bitch, and I hope you burn at the beach, or it rains on you for wishing such things on not only us, but your friends also.

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Morgie(06:36):

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BTW: WHY SHOULD YOU FUCKING DECIDE THAT, WHY DONT YOU ASK OTHER PEOPLE...ok i'm done luv yah see you at camp in 2 weeks.

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Morgie(06:35):

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btw: i will be reading comments so dont piss me off at the beach, just leave it as it is and think about it- I REPEAT DO NOT COMMENT i will be at the beach and reading comments and not wanting to read about how much you are all assholes and have no lives btw: fuck you

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Morgie(06:34):

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Alex your so mean! I put it on there because I thought it was interesting because the discussions are currently crap and people could discuss stuff that is more relevant to our personal lives, oh well burn in hell i'm headed to the beach and hope it's extreemly sunny there with pouring rain here. btw: it'd be nice if you weren't so stupid or just said it nicely you fucking asshole. and this site is ugly.

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zacky(00:16):

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OK, here is our topic, deviate and perish. Is time infinite or not, goddammit?

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